Ed. gets Divine Intervention!
Usama has responded to me in person, so I feel that I have a right to reply. Here is the email in question
Dear “Ibn Adam,”
as-salamu ‘alaykum.
I just wanted to say: Ed Husain and Maajid Nawaz are *not* “enemies of Islam and Muslims,” or heretics, as one brother alleged, another lie and slander. Even Ed’s critics admit that he does a good job of defending Islam and Muslims on the media. Listen to his debate online with the vicious ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, where he defends Islam against her ridiculous attacks. This debate was chaired by the neo-con Douglas Murray, attended by 200 people: media, politicians, academics, British intelligentsia. Do you think Allah helped Ed to win that debate, or not? Maajid spent four years in prison in Egypt, including being tortured. He knows what he’s doing. But it’s easy being an armchair critic, isn’t it?
Personally I am just shocked by this. I mean what in the world does it take for Usama to make a statement heretical ? What I find particularly fascinating though is this quote
Do you think Allah helped Ed to win that debate, or not?
Wow! I am impressed. Now it seems that Ed gets Karamat like the Awliya! I assume this is a rhetorical question and the obvious answer is well, NO!
What is more shocking is that we have an outright heresy that is uttered in the same debate with Ayan Hirsa Ali! I quote
Feminism this is a really interesting question to raise within western Islam. It is something I had on my mind since I had a baby daughter four months ago because all of this suddenly means alot more. Do I want her to grow up in a world which she is twenty.. twenty one, somehow someone will tell her, her testemoniy in court is only worth half that a mans or that if she inherits whatever wealth I have she will only inherit one third of that of a son that I might have. I am sorry but that sort of reasoning doesnt sit with me and I cant accept that and those of you who have conservative tendencies in the audience if you want to sort of go and make remarks on my not being muslim anymore go ahead and do so but I think that the prophet Muhammad came in a world which women, young daughters were being buried alive. Women were considered to be chattles. Stepmothers were inherited by there sons as sexual objects. In that world of women not even having human status he gave women full human status. He went as far as he could in those circumstances but for us in the west today in 2007 it is for us to move in the full spirit of the prophet which is to recognise women as full human beings and to give them their full rights
He finished with a little anecdote on a plane. He was discussing with a woman about the testamonial witness of a female in the Quran. She said well don’t we menstruate? Ed replied , pleading for the case of full equality ( I assume in a fake upper class accent)
“Tell the Judge darling you will back in 6 days time”
You can also see this on the video below in the beginning of the section. See this link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nXFMHlJMTs0&feature=related
Ed got the facts wrong. The daughter gets half the inheritence of the son, but that is not his concern as he pushing for full equality. He also knew this was the orthodox position because I quote
and those of you who have conservative tendencies in the audience if you want to sort of go and make remarks on my not being muslim anymore go ahead and do so
By consensus and by Qati Dalalah and Qati Thabuut the daughter gets half the inheritence of the son in principal yet here Ed. is telling us that this is outdated and in fact he is telling us that if you want to call me a non muslim because of this then so be it!
Now have the angels found Ed’s session of Dhikr defending Islam and the Muslims? May Allah protect us from this heretical view. Brothers and sisters who is lying and slandering now?
This has appeared on the Advisor’s page. I think it is, firstly, to hide the fact that some advisors do not wish to be associated with QF and “Ed”, and have asked for their names to be removed; secondly, some advisors do not want anyone to know that they are in fact advisors! I suspect that Br. Usama falls into the second category. I hope he can enlighten us on which one is the case for him!
http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/advisors.html
“After a hugely successful public launch (video link below) at the British Museum, the Quilliam Foundation will shortly be restructuring and setting up new units to meet the huge demand for its work. The contribution of our advisors was vital in ensuring that we had an impactful start and we would like to thank all of our advisors for their immense support.
In the meantime, we have decided to respect our advisors’ wishes that they continue to advise us in private so as to save them the indignity of constant Islamist-Wahhabite harrassment. We have therefore decided to no longer publicise their names. In coming months, we will continue to work with our advisors by drawing on their expertise as we build our units.”
Ali Abdullah
May 14, 2008 at 12:55 am
HAHA.. Was a matter of time!
Abu Saif
May 14, 2008 at 8:31 am
When i heard the debate I thought Ed was on Ayan hersi’s side. There was one point when Ed was speaking about islamic rules relating to women and Hersi was saying ‘im enjoying every bit of this’. Clearly there’s no dissonance between Ed and Ayan there!
Abu Omar
May 14, 2008 at 4:15 pm