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Common Ground in Hostile Territory

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Many a times we have heard that it is better that we engage in the common good even with non Muslims rather than  throwing out the baby with the water. It surely would be difficult if we adopted a mentality of and I quote

“Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet.”

Indeed this attitude now has included the Quilliam Foundation by certain representitives of the Muslim community and I shall later on in this blog include people that I had been silent about before. We should even have “husn al Dhunn” (give them the benefit of the doubt ) for these people.  We must remember that the British government had linked its funding with support for this Foundation. Here is the link

http://traditionalislamism.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/support-quilliam-or-else/

What do we mean by common good?

1-We could work for the benefit of the Muslims in drug rehab programs, in providing a “British Muslim” identity, in tackling extremism and so on. It would not matter what the conditions are for this engagement

2-We could work on the “common good” with Non Muslim Governments but on the condition that we are not forced to leave Islam, compromise on our religion, and so on

3-We should never trust Non Muslim Governments and only have a hostile relationship i.e.

“Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet.”

Now the British Government is forcing people like the Radical Middle Way to engage with the Quilliam Foundation and even support them publically. In fact we have other people like Hamza Yusuf having “husn al Dhunn of people like Mockbul Ali a Muslim in the British Government who is said now to have closer relationships with the Quilliam Foundation.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/martin-bright/2008/04/quilliam-foundation-meeting

Of course in my eyes he had links with MCB before the change in policy, and now with the governments support for this foundation he has changed tact. He clearly is forced because of his position to just push what the Government wants despite what he may personally believe.

Now can we really engage in “Husn al Dhunn” in forming a “British Muslim” identity with entities like the Quilliam Foundation? Well this really makes a mock of this whole notion of “common good” and “Husn al Dhunn”.

Here we have a foundation that calls the prophets edicts barbaric, equates orthodox Islam with the BNP, wants us to seek a re-interpretation on the “abomination” of Homosexuality (well, I shall leave it to Maajid to clarify that one) and takes the Maqasid approach to Kufr and we want to engage with them in forming a British identity?! We want to be “inclusive” with them? I mean that is ridiculous to say the least! So we accept the funding of the British Government as long as we say that they are contributing in a positive and inclusive manner to moulding our identity of Islam. Yeah, well that would be great if it were not for the fact that by adopting this approach  we destroy the basis of the whole enterprise! It is like saying, I will unite with Neo Nazis to combat racism! A contradiction, if I ever saw one!

Now of course those people within the Radical Middle Way do see this as a mistake as one supporter clearly said on this site. I quote

I am not disagreeing with you that Ed Hussain has been way out of line – I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE. And it was totally unnecessary for Abdulrahman malik to ‘bring’ QF into the comment he was making in that video. It’s his fault and naviety for trying to be inclusive because I think the QF does not do anything worth including or praising.

Well Ed is not just out of line, he is also preaching Kufr! Alhamidullah I know it was a mistake (and this is where I have Husn al Dhunn), but why can’t the Radical Middle Way make it public ? Wallahi, I am not here to be obsessive on mistakes and it would do the foundation a whole lot of good. Unfortunately this approach of a three prong Husn al Dhunn, engagement in an inclusive manner, and an agreement to disagree has also been pushed forward by another “Sufi”  “mainstream” figure that is well known. For the moment that figure that we have evidence for shall remain annonymous until the right time comes. Remember we are talking about the Quilliam Foundation here .

Of course there is nothing wrong in engaging with anybody in seeking to root out things like unemployment, crime, and drug addiction but not at the expense of our religion!

This is Husn al Dhunn taken to far. Rather we should adopt this approach as our beloved Prophet said

A believer is not stung twice from the same hole.

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July 20, 2008 at 4:11 pm

Radical Middle Way Representitive Has Replied

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The brother Abdul Rehman Malik has replied to the accusation against him in a personal letter that he has sent to my email address. Inshallah I have asked him if he wants me to make it public, and whether this would be his final word.

I await his permission to make it public, and I assume if he does not reply then it will not be a problem as it was initially addressed to clarify certain “accusations”.

Of course we do reserve the right to reply to it.

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July 20, 2008 at 1:23 pm

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